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Post by Blood Ravenous » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:26 pm

I don't like coffee. It smells and tastes bad. I don't drink tea, haven't tried it in awhile and it didn't smell or taste very good, either, the last time I tried it. I kinda like soda but I don't drink it anymore. The only thing caffienated I eat/drink is chocolate.

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Post by Xyon_of_Calhoun » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:06 pm

Coffee is awesome. The bane of my insomniac existence, since i'd never get anything done during daylight hours without it after my brain refused to let me sleep the night before. :)
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Post by Frug » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:33 pm

Coffee smells great and yeah, it tastes kinda awful but you get used to it, much like cigarettes, which also taste foul.
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Post by Guest » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:51 pm

Coffee and cigarettes... not the most excellent comination.

Cigarettes don't really taste of anything if you smoke them properly

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Post by Blood Ravenous » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:16 pm

I've got picky tastebuds. I drive my friends and family nuts (^_^; )

"Smoke them properly" as in not at all? XP I don't like cigs either. BLECH.

Caffiene is a vicious circle of lack of sleep, drink coffee/tea/whatever, can't fall asleep, lack of sleep... I'm going to try to avoid that throughout my life. Chocolate late at night has already taken its toll some days, already. I take naps :3

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Post by Xyon_of_Calhoun » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:50 pm

Guest was me, btw. Smoke them properly as in inhale the damned smoke.

Coffee in the mornings keeps me going throughout the day. I drink a cup in the morning, then one just before I start working (I got a job!! YAY!)

So even if I've just woken up, or if I've not been asleep all night, coffee enables me to get things done during the hours of the day people...

For I am la insomnica diabolica... creature of the night and feared computer nerd.... bow before my typing, coding, and total ineptitude in the field of sleep abilities!!!
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Post by Vladimir Sidorov » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:50 pm

I would have coffee sent through my bloodstream intravenously if it were possible/ethical. That is the single drink I cannot go without. And I don't even care if I get stomach ulcers from it.

Now, I hate cigarettes because of all the damn chemicals that are put into them and all, but smoking pure tobacco (especially with pipes and/or hookahs) is apparently very relaxing. I mean, smoking was an assumed form of medical care in India for centuries. Aaaaand then people started getting lung cancer from inhaling cigarette smoke (not necessarily tobacco smoke) in the lungs and the world went nuts. Sure, there are still downsides to tobacco, but pipe-smoking doesn't have all the health risks associated with cigarette-smoking.

(I don't prefer either because I'm allergic to tobacco, but that's besides the point.)

Anyway... speaking of liquids, the bacteria Archaea can survive in a climate of water at a temperature up to 106°C.

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Post by Blood Ravenous » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:58 am

Sleep is so important to your brain. And caffeine has a half-life of 6 hours, if I remember correctly. If you happen to fall asleep on caffiene, it still makes the sleep practically useless. It's not that harmful but it isn't good, either.

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Post by Frug » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:23 am

a) I smoke cigarettes properly if properly is inhaling, and I still think they taste foul. The taste is so foul and so strong it is the main reason why I keep quitting. Add to that the stench it leaves on your hands and it's too much.

b) Covering sick people in crocodile dung and leaving them in the sun was medical therapy in Egypt for a long time too (google coprotherapy) so Indians considering smoking good means jack (google psychology of superstition, 'SUPERSTITION' IN THE PIGEON. B. F. Skinner, Indiana University). I've smoked a lot of pot too, and 'pot culture' is all on about how it's not bad for you because it lacks carcingeons that cigarettes have. I think that's only half true.

c) Picky tastebuds are annoying! I eat anything and everything except cow liver and a few particular entrails. Just eat it! It's food.

d) Before hearing about Archaea (I'm guessing these are the bacteria they found living in deep sea volcanoes) I would have said that was impossible. (see glass and water discussion above). I still don't see how water that's boiling can support life. Boiling water gets all explosivly gaseous and bubbles and stuff. Maybe the pressure down there keeps it from forming a gas?

e) Nobody yet knows what the purpose of sleeping is for the brain or the rest of the body. The 'regenerative period' hypothesis is lacking. For example, during REM sleep your brain is doing a lot of work, which is why when you sleep too much you feel tired during the day. You have spent too much time sleeping and it tired your brain out. Psychologists think it's also a period of 'memory consolidation' but that too has its problems I'm sure.

f) there is no point f.
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Post by Xyon_of_Calhoun » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:42 pm

Frug wrote:You have spent too much time sleeping and it tired your brain out
So... sleep makes you more tired?
Frug wrote:f) there is no point f.
Well that's a lie
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Post by Vladimir Sidorov » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:33 pm

"F" is for "Frug's Face", which adorns the ceiling of every pre-teenage girl's room and becomes subject to much wistful sighing.

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Post by Xyon_of_Calhoun » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:25 pm

Makes me glad I'm not American. :)

Frug has a face? I thought he looked like his avatar :|
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Post by Blood Ravenous » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:02 pm

Frug wrote:c) Picky tastebuds are annoying! I eat anything and everything except cow liver and a few particular entrails. Just eat it! It's food.

d) Before hearing about Archaea (I'm guessing these are the bacteria they found living in deep sea volcanoes) I would have said that was impossible. (see glass and water discussion above). I still don't see how water that's boiling can support life. Boiling water gets all explosivly gaseous and bubbles and stuff. Maybe the pressure down there keeps it from forming a gas?

e) Nobody yet knows what the purpose of sleeping is for the brain or the rest of the body. The 'regenerative period' hypothesis is lacking. For example, during REM sleep your brain is doing a lot of work, which is why when you sleep too much you feel tired during the day. You have spent too much time sleeping and it tired your brain out. Psychologists think it's also a period of 'memory consolidation' but that too has its problems I'm sure.
c. Yeah I know, it sucks for me, but I can't help it. It's actually not quite tastebuds that I'm picky about, its texture. (^_^; )

d. That stuff is amazing. They find random bacteria or other animals just about everywhere we would think is impossible. Like, how do creatures live without sunlight? Up here that's all creatures do. But down in the sea they use chemicals as energy. (@_@)

e. Well, I know what I feel like after lack of sleep. I won't be able to remember things, I'll use the wrong words, I won't do that well in school... They happen more often than normal, then I'll realize I didn't get enough sleep. I also saw a show, Dr. Know, who did a small test on it; he took only 2 people and tested their math and hand-eye coordination, made them avoid sleep except for like 4 hours and tested them again, and then let them sleep and tested them again. They did badly after lack of sleep but recovered it with 12 hours of sleep. Of course its not very scientific or accurate because he only had 2 people and didn't control other variables. But it was intriguing.

Of course, the only way they know anything about the brain is MRI and stuff. They aren't very good tools, but we learn enough for now. I suppose.

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Post by Frug » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:57 pm

Why, dear Vladimir, must it be pre-teenage girls?
Dear god, why do not those wistful sighs
come with an older woman's eyes?

And I don't mean, like, 40.

Of course, the only way they know anything about the brain is MRI and stuff. They aren't very good tools, but we learn enough for now. I suppose.
Not true. fMRI, PET, cat scans and such are good at picking up vaguely what regions of the brain are active when you do certain tasks but they aren't the only method.
You have lesion studies too, which are much better in many cases. People survive all kinds of accidents and end up messed up in curious ways. Those have probably told us the most. If we were allowed to cut open people's heads and tinker around more we would learn so much. But noooo, it's unethical.
Then there's animal studies. Not great, but also very revealing. Stick electrodes in a mouse's brain and let it run around and such. You -could- do that to people too if it wasn't unethical.[/code]
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Post by Shadowsong » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:36 pm

What in the name of all things burgandy makes you think it is ethical to do that to a mouse?
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