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Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:06 am
by Sir Karsimir
Lylessa Uluki wrote:But I'm totally stumped... how did he know Quinn is from Shim? If that's going to be revealed in future posts, you don't have to say. If you've already given the information I should need to figure it out and I've just missed it, could you enlighten the clueless? ;)
He didn't. He just assumes some people in Marn have friends in Shim or vice-versa.
I really liked the Aorle post. He's quite eloquent, and it was cool to see his beliefs-- which are evident in his actions-- laid out like that.
Thanks, I designed the Codes using a sourcebook on paladins. They are normally only supposed to have one code of honour, but Aorle has to be greedy of course. :P

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:22 pm
by Julen
Railtus Anstrun wrote:PS: Julen, unless you specifically want Julen to be cheeseless, I suggest a few Lightswords (probably Hatton & Triarius) make sure there is extra food so that Julen is not without - purely to establish the Lightswords as prone to random acts of kindness.
Actually, Julen being cheeseless is an important plot point, which will be setting up for a big twist involving giant mice. :P

Okay, I'm not quite that insane. Not yet. I like the idea of a few of Julen's comrades making sure he gets his cheese.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:51 am
by Sir Karsimir
Quinn: We do whatever we wish with Snyde's gang, so feel free to make up the numbers. Obviously there must have been more than 53. :wink: Although more than 70-75 would be perceived as a threat by the Judges and thus stamped out.

There are associates as well, but the associates need gang members to deal with them, and Snyde simply doesn't have the manpower to keep as many associates or businesses operational.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:18 am
by Lylessa Uluki
Rail, I'm sorry for being dense, but I need a clarification on your post.
"You can see for yourself. Will you be free in two nights from now? Come to the Field of Flowers, with an eye for talent as much as entertainment."
Should Hornwood know where Phelan means? His player has no idea.
One expression used among the court was 'rolling the field of flowers'... an expression which was often met with puzzlement and raised brows and no comment. Now, the phrase had meaning.
Sorry, I still don't get it. I've read over your post a couple of times, and I just can't figure out what this is meant to imply. The "meaning" you refer to is apparently going over my head. If Hornwood is supposed to understand, can you explain a bit for his confused player? :)

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:24 am
by Sir Karsimir
I thought I included that Phelan would arrange a guide/directions for Hornwood. :oops: I'll add that in.

I will PM you about the Field of Flowers (in the morning). It is deliberately mysterious so I don't give too much away to everyone else.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:28 am
by Lylessa Uluki
Awesome, thanks. :)

I will probably hold off on my post till I receive your PM, just so I have the background. I will post sometime tomorrow.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:13 pm
by Sir Karsimir
Apologies for my delay. I will need a good chunk of sleep before writing a decent post. :sorry:

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:54 pm
by Quinn
Is the idea that I'll invent some mercenary friends for Zaryel? I mean, they already exist in theory, but give them names and stuff? I assume that is the case, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I'm missing...

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:04 pm
by Sir Karsimir
Quinn wrote:Is the idea that I'll invent some mercenary friends for Zaryel? I mean, they already exist in theory, but give them names and stuff? I assume that is the case, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I'm missing...
I'd not thought of that. :oops:

I was simply thinking of the fact sending one man for that job would be 'tactically unsound' (read: bloody stupid :) ). They can be background NPCs with details added whenever convenient.

Whichever suits you really.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:16 am
by Quinn
Ok, that's cool, just checking there wasn't already some group of merceneries that existed and I'd missed them or something.

I'm seeing a logo. Zaryel and the Moneyswords. :wink:

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:52 pm
by Sir Karsimir
“Perhaps we should ask Aorle about this matter? Because I, too, am unsure what he intended.
What Aorle has in mind...

Thetta is not to command the civilian militia, she is training ten refugees in how to fight. This compound is not expected to be permanent and among their goals here is for the refugees to learn useful skills during their stay. Thetta is a strong, capable warrior woman, and many of the female refugees will benefit from her example.

One risk they need to avoid is Thetta's students learning to hate men; they have suffered much, and it would be very easy to blame men for that, their resentment becoming about gender rather than justice. An additional capable male teacher would help reduce that risk.

The civilian militia are primarily under Rollick's leadership as Castellan. Who to select is entirely Rollick's decision. Partly because of Rollick's qualifications as an officer, partly because in practice Rollick would be the one expected to command the civilian militia if they were ever expected to take action or defend the compound (since Aorle would be commanding the Lightswords) - so training with Rollick avoids the disadvantage of unfamiliar leadership if and when they are ever needed.

While Aorle counts Rosemary as a friend, she is temperamental. If Rosemary wants combat training then learning from Rollick would probably be better for her.

Aorle would say all of this in roughly those words if that conversation is off-camera.

PS: Aorle still wants to apologise to Thetta for having been defensive before and for handling their dispute badly. That can happen on or off-camera, but he would actively seek her out before Shim.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:55 pm
by Julen
Cool! Thanks for answering all that, Rail. Unless you wish otherwise, Aorle's apology to Thetta can happen off camera -- she'll appreciate it, but won't have much to say on the matter. Compared to what she's used to, he didn't really behave that badly. :P

Here's one more conversation that can happen off camera. When Julen tells Aorle about how he lost control of his magic during the confrontation with Panterras, will Aorle suport Uluki's idea about practicing (if there's any time for practice before Shim)? And will it change his plan about Julen turning himself in after Shim?

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:23 pm
by Lylessa Uluki
Thanks, Rail. :)

Two more off-camera conversations from me:

I assume prior to Shim, Rollick and Aorle will also have that strategy discussion we talked about? It can be summarized, I think.

Also, Uluki will tell Aorle about the dress issue with Kaydee, that Kaydee didn't mean to ruin it, and that they'll try to fix it. Unless Aorle would have a different reaction, we can probably just assume it goes smoothly.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:34 pm
by Sir Karsimir
Julen: Aorle will actually suggest against practicing, partly because it is against the law, and partly because it weakens their case that Julen is simply a good citizen who was as surprised by casting illusions as anyone else. So far, the only real deliberate illusion-casting has been easing the pain of a badly injured child (back in Finner's blimp) and to hide a child from a crazed sorcerer who intended a bloody death for her (Panterras).

I will have to ask Frug if the Judges would want a demonstration, or at least if they expected demonstrations from Aorle.

Out of curiosity, would Rosemary want to learn combat training?

Uluki: Sounds good. I will need reminding about the strategy discussion though.

There will be no problems about the dress of course... in fact he will quite happily help in fixing it.

Re: Lightsword Saga

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:03 pm
by Lylessa Uluki
Strategy discussion is this, from a couple of pages ago. It relates to Aorle being confused about why Rollick didn't take the nomads to the Panterras ambush.
Lylessa Uluki wrote:...In terms of your post, if you actually want to have Aorle ask Rollick why he didn't have sharpshooters in place, this can happen off-camera, and the explanation will be this:

The building interior does not have cover to hide them. This is deliberate, because that cover would be easier for Panterras and potential cronies to use against our side (bearing in mind they use magic) than for us to use against him, and Rollick doesn't like that kind of nasty surprise in battle. Rollick wants to be able to see what's coming, rather than having extra evil mages popping out from behind concealing objects.

That means the sharpshooters would have to hide outside, and pick off Panterras as he approached or left the building (and chances are he'll be leaving by magic one way or the other.) Since he does have "protection" against arrows in the sense he'll just teleport when he realizes someone is shooting at him, the first arrow would basically have to kill him instantly, or he'd just leave. If he caught sight of one of them, again, he'd just leave.

Now, it's very possible the nomads are good enough shots to pull that off. But since Rollick has never actually seen them fight anything (and hasn't seen their NPC profiles ;)) he really has no way of knowing what they can do. Other than their own description of their abilities and maybe seeing them train a little, he really has no idea whether they'd be a help or a hindrance, whether they'd stick to the plan or decide to do their own thing, whether they panic under pressure (what little evidence he's seen so far would indicate at least some of them do,) or heck, if they could be convinced to change sides. He just doesn't know them, and something that requires this much precision-- and upon which Kira's and possibly Uluki's life depends-- Rollick is going to stick to people he knows he can trust, not only in a moral sense but in terms of their combat abilities.

If this ambush went wrong, they'd never be able to get Panterras into another one, and then Kira's pretty much dead. The nomads are definitely potentially useful, but they are also a very unknown quantity and there are about a thousand different ways they could, intentionally or unintentionally, complicate the plan and mess everything up. And of course, the fewer people who know the details, the less chance someone will let them slip in the wrong place.

They've also had to assume (correctly, as we discovered when Delphina was spotted and followed) that Panterras and friends have at least some eye on the compound, and probably the ambush site. Therefore everyone there must be accounted for in some way: the assassin, the bard, the traitor, the two victims. They took a gamble on Julen not being recognized, and it paid off, but Rollick would assume it would be pushing their luck a bit to think that half a dozen armed nomad sharpshooters would go unnoticed as they moved into position, and there's no good way to explain them to Panterras. ("Oh, don't mind them, they're friendly!" :P) This is stealth, not outright warfare. Panterras would not knowingly join a battle unless he found himself embroiled in it (as happened.)

The potential benefits to having sharpshooters are, in Rollick's mind, far exceeded by the risks and problems they would pose. Aorle may or may not agree with that line of reasoning, but that's what the reasoning is.
The discussion doesn't have to be played out-- actually, I don't think it's worth playing out-- but I'd like it to be at least mentioned IC (which I can do myself if preferred) since Aorle raised the question, so for the benefit of readers of the IC but not OOC thread, it would be nice for Rollick to have the chance to explain it. :)