Watch out Frug, there may be a contender for the crown of 'King of the Trolls'
Sheldon got us good.
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(08:02:07) Azura: Why cant i be a vampire?
(08:02:34) Cai: Because vampires in Thar Shaddin are rather different to vampires in other games
(08:02:42) Cai: And they are heavily moderated
(08:03:07) Azura: im really good at vampires though
(08:03:15) Cai: Unless someone has a thorough understanding of the setting, and a specific setting-based need to have one, they are generally forbidden
(08:03:33) Azura: oh
(08:03:50) Azura: but azura is a vampire
(08:04:00) Cai: Not anymore, I am afraid
(08:04:03) Porter: Gilith_Greenwood has been logged out (Timeout).
(08:04:03) Porter: Gilith_Greenwood logs into the Chat.
(08:04:05) Porter: Gilith_Greenwood has been logged out (Timeout).
(08:04:05) Porter: Gilith_Greenwood logs into the Chat.
(08:04:47) Azura: nut i played her for over a year. Shes not super powerful or anything
(08:05:33) Azura: she doesnt even know shes a vampire she lost her memories of the last 300 years
(08:05:42) Gilith_Greenwood: James would you reccomend i rip off the tragic untrusting anti social raistlin and use the anime version of his picture for my avatar?
(08:06:29) Gilith_Greenwood: I believe most unfortunately. that vampires are restricted for new comers
lik you an me.
(08:06:35) Cai: Any character application here needs to be integrated with the Thar Shaddin setting. And unfortunately, the vampire issue is something I can promise the moderators will not budge on
(08:06:48) Cai: They are even restricted for long-standing players
(08:07:23) Porter: Niabi logs into the Chat.
(08:07:28) Niabi: hey guys
(08:07:35) Gilith_Greenwood: I think heres only like one around and the site owner plays him.
(08:07:39) Cai: There has to be a VERY good reason to create one, and 'I want to play a vampire' isn't a good reason. It has to be very setting-specific and worked out with a moderator
(08:07:40) Gilith_Greenwood: Yo
(08:08:06) Cai: (whispers to Niabi) *Giggle*
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(08:02:07) Azura: Why cant i be a vampire?
(08:02:34) Cai: Because vampires in Thar Shaddin are rather different to vampires in other games
(08:02:42) Cai: And they are heavily moderated
(08:03:07) Azura: im really good at vampires though
(08:03:15) Cai: Unless someone has a thorough understanding of the setting, and a specific setting-based need to have one, they are generally forbidden
(08:03:33) Azura: oh
(08:03:50) Azura: but azura is a vampire
(08:04:00) Cai: Not anymore, I am afraid
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(08:08:15) Porter: Azura logs out of the Chat.
(08:08:19) Porter: (279564) logs into the Chat.
(08:08:20) Breda_Dreaughan: I wasn't aware we had even one. Hi Niabi!
(08:08:43) Gilith_Greenwood: Belatucadrus i think?
(08:08:46) Breda_Dreaughan: Wtf is wrong with this colour thing.
(08:08:52) (279564): why did it log me out?
(08:09:06) Cai: On a phone, Azura? If so, you have my sympathies - the chatroom doesn't work well on phones
(08:09:20) (279564): no im on my laptop
(08:09:24) Breda_Dreaughan: It acts up occasionally even if you aren't.
(08:09:48) Cai: Or maybe there was some kind of cookie conflict
(08:10:09) Cai: It will log you out if you log out of the main site too
(08:10:21) Cai: Or if you switch between characters
(08:10:32) Niabi: or if your ip changes
(08:11:17) Niabi: I can answer the vampire questions
(08:11:31) Niabi: Yes, Bela is are one and only vampire character
(08:11:58) (279564): I am really good at vampires and shes not overpowered or anything i promise
(08:12:13) (279564): she doesnt even know shes a vampire
(08:12:23) Niabi: However, he is not so much played as a character as much as an NPC that helps to stablize the setting in the event that a player steps out of bounds and breaks IC rules
(08:12:43) Niabi: how would you not know you were a vampire?
(08:13:16) Cai:
http://www.tharshaddin.com/wiki/Vampire
(08:13:17) Porter: Ferric_Vintas logs into the Chat.
(08:13:17) Niabi: you would die moments after stepping outside during the day
(08:13:32) (279564): she lost all her memories of the last 300 years
(08:13:35) Ferric_Vintas: I see I have wandered back in on a lovely conversation
(08:14:00) Niabi: Ours are also hurt by blight lights, including candle light
(08:14:14) Ferric_Vintas: Oh boy an immortal vampire? We LOVE those.
(08:14:17) (279564): her sire fell in love with her and sacrificed himself to save her from the pain of all the evil things they done together
(08:14:24) Ferric_Vintas: They are just the coolest
(08:14:38) Cai: (whispers to Ferric_Vintas)
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(08:02:07) Azura: Why cant i be a vampire?
(08:02:34) Cai: Because vampires in Thar Shaddin are rather different to vampires in other games
(08:02:42) Cai: And they are heavily moderated
(08:03:07) Azura: im really good at vampires though
(08:03:15) Cai: Unless someone has a thorough understanding of the setting, and a specific setting-based need to have one, they are generally forbidden
(08:03:33) Azura: oh
(08:03:50) Azura: but azura is a vampire
(08:04:00) Cai: Not anymore, I am afraid
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(08:14:39) Breda_Dreaughan: Now now. No need for sarcasm.
(08:15:04) Ferric_Vintas: There is always a need for sarcasm
(08:15:04) (279564): and he put a spell on her that conceals all the traces of her vampirism and made her forget all about it
(08:15:17) Niabi: and you do know that even if your character forgot the last 300 years that you would have to write out what happened in all those years?
(08:15:25) Cai: (whispers to Ferric_Vintas) I am alternating between giggles and facepalming right now
(08:15:51) (279564): so she just thinks something terrible happened the night her parents farm got attacked but she cant figure it out because 300 years have gone by and nothing is the way it was
(08:16:07) Niabi: You would have to have a deep understanding of the setting and what she had been doing all that time
(08:16:12) (279564): so she thinks an evil warlock pulled her through time
(08:16:29) Ferric_Vintas: (whispers) Oh my god, I wish my connection had not gone so I could have participated in this XD
(08:16:42) Cai: (whispers to Ferric_Vintas) HALP! HALP! CAN'T BREATHE. LAUGHING TOO MUCH.
(08:18:30) Cai: (whispers to Gilith_Greenwood) Which raistlin pics? For Gilith, you mean?
(08:19:11) Ferric_Vintas: Important question: Is her last name by any chance Sue?
(08:19:21) (279564): no
(08:19:34) Porter: Gilith_Greenwood has been logged out (Timeout).
(08:19:46) Ferric_Vintas: Okay. Glad that got cleared up
(08:20:05) (279564): she doesn't remember her lsat name anymore
(08:20:37) Breda_Dreaughan: Don't make me start with the whole "Mary Sue is a sexist concept" thing.
(08:20:51) (279564): whos mary sure?
(08:20:55) (279564): sue
(08:20:55) (279564): *
(08:21:00) Ferric_Vintas: Marty Stues are just as bad
(08:21:04) Cai: Honestly, though, the answer to 'May I have a vampire, please?' is always 'No' for newcomers
(08:21:25) Niabi: I'm a bit confused. Maybe you can explain it to me. So is she just unaware that she is a vampire and can unknowingly get herself killed by going for an afternoon walk or sitting too close to a fireplace or is she basically a human (immune to all things that kill a vampire)?
(08:21:29) Cai: Ferric is being facetious, and referring to a type of writing which lends itself to self-insertion
(08:21:57) (279564): whats facetious?
(08:22:00) Breda_Dreaughan: I'm -not- going to get started.
(08:22:11) Porter: Shade has been logged out (Timeout).
(08:22:29) Cai: Facetious is fancy talk for 'being a smartarse', at least in this case =p
(08:22:41) (279564): oh
(08:22:44) Cai: (whispers to Ferric_Vintas) I bet she reads Twilight
(08:22:52) Ferric_Vintas:
(08:23:11) Niabi: Is she basically human or just ignorant of her weaknesses?
(08:23:33) (279564): so shes not basically a human. Shes a vampire but her sire sacrificed himself to put a powerful spell on her that hides all traces of her vampire abilities
(08:23:37) Ferric_Vintas: (whispers) I would not bet against you XD
(08:23:38) Cai: To be blunt: in Thar Shaddin, the lore for vampires is fairly set in stone as to what they are and how they work -
http://www.tharshaddin.com/wiki/Vampire
(08:23:56) (279564): so she doesn't get hurt by sunlight because the spell protects her but she doesnt know that
(08:24:18) Cai: It would be impossible for a vampire to NOT know it. Otherwise she'd have died within a day of becoming one
(08:25:00) (279564): she KNEW she was a vampire for 300 years but then she had a spell put on her that hides it
(08:25:01) Cai: And there is no spell in Thar Shaddin which would protect her in such a way. That would be far too powerful an ability
(08:25:09) (279564): and she doesnt remember
(08:25:12) Niabi: You realize she would starve to death if she ate a normal human diet
(08:25:18) (279564): thats why he DIED to make the spell
(08:25:27) Ferric_Vintas: Serious face: We've had vampires in the setting who have tried for centuries to find any way to protect themselves from sunlight. It would be absurd for such a solution to be so easily available.
(08:25:39) Ferric_Vintas: And yeah, he died. But it would be easy enough for a vampire to torture somebody into doing that for them
(08:25:52) (279564): but she blacks out sometimes and still feeds on things
(08:26:12) (279564): and no because he used the power of his love for her to make the spell and it killed him
(08:26:20) (279564): so its not vampire magic its white magic
(08:26:29) Cai: In this setting, that would not work
(08:26:29) Niabi: So essentially you want a vampire character who is immune to all the vampire weaknesses?
(08:26:55) (279564): and the effort killed him and his sacrifice is part of the power in the spell
(08:26:56) Niabi: we don't have "white" or "dark" magic
(08:27:05) Cai: (whispers to Ferric_Vintas) This is priceless XD
(08:27:05) Niabi: magic is magic in our setting
(08:27:21) Cai: And there are limitations as to what magic can do
(08:27:27) Ferric_Vintas: The power of luuuuv ^u^
(08:27:27) (279564): and shes not completely immune she just doesnt get hurt by sunlight and she doesnt have any access to her powers
(08:27:46) (279564): so shes not even as powerful as a regular vampire
(08:28:08) Ferric_Vintas: She does not get hurt by sunlight = immune to campire weakness
(08:28:13) Niabi: Kit, vampires in our setting are unable to feel "luuuuuv"
(08:28:27) Ferric_Vintas: I meant vampire, but that works too
(08:28:32) (279564): its not luuuuuuuuuuuv
(08:28:33) Cai: (whispers to Niabi) Y'know, she isn't going to stop until someone says 'sure, have your vampire' or 'No. End of story. NO.' =p
(08:28:46) Niabi: One of the things they give up in becoming vampires is their ability to feel human emotions
(08:28:53) (279564): its pure love and yea vampires dont usually feel love and thats why he realized he had to protect her from being a vampire forever
(08:29:13) (279564): and the effort killed him and so his life energy went into the spell
(08:29:30) Cai: Unfortunately, that kind of Vampire cannot exist in Thar Shaddin
(08:29:31) (279564): i dont see whats so hard to understand i thought you guys are rpers
(08:29:47) Niabi: we are, but we have limits
(08:29:47) Ferric_Vintas: Alas, it is too much romance for my cynical heart to handle :-(
(08:29:55) Cai: No, we write collaborative fiction to help explore the setting of Thar Shaddin
(08:29:55) Niabi: there are rules to our setting
(08:31:34) Cai: I mean, I'd have LOVED to introduce my vampiric butcher from another RP site
(08:31:50) (279564): well your rules are stupid ive played this character for over a year and everyone i play with tells me how imaginative and original it is and if you gave me a chance youd think it was good too but you wont even let me try
(08:31:55) Cai: But it would not have fit into this setting. So I made a character which did fit
(08:32:20) (279564): i dont understand vampires are everywhere what do you have against it?
(08:32:28) (279564): was it twilight? i hate twilight too!
(08:32:30) Cai: Then you should have no problem creating a new and equally original character for this setting
(08:32:56) Cai: Vampires are NOT everywhere in this setting. That is the main point we are trying to make here
(08:33:05) Niabi: Like I tried to say from the beginning, we have one vampire in our setting and he's used more as an NPC to keep the setting in balance. He is rarely used. One of the few times I have seen him used over the years was to stable the setting after some guy tried to summon and army of a couple hundred guys to march on the city and burn it to the ground.
(08:33:29) Ferric_Vintas: That was before we had any sort of regulation on horseshit
(08:33:34) (279564): ubt im not going to unbalance the setting
(08:33:54) (279564): its not horseshit
(08:34:12) Ferric_Vintas: Oh, I wasn't calling your idea horseshit
(08:34:28) Ferric_Vintas: I was calling the army thing horseshit
(08:34:43) Cai: But you are asking us to completely change the setting to allow for what is currently an impossible character for this setting. That is unbalanced. Why won't you consider making a new character which does fit with the setting?
(08:34:45) (279564): i wouldnt try to summon an army or anything
(08:35:09) (279564): i spent alotof time and energy on this character
(08:35:18) (279564): what the fuck is that?
(08:35:21) Niabi: I think you should take a look at some of the approved characters we have. The vast majority of our character are humans with no magical powers
(08:35:28) Ferric_Vintas: Hahahaha
(08:35:29) Ferric_Vintas: Oh we know. You'd just make a character without flaws.
(08:35:37) Cai: I spent a lot of time and energy on my vampiric butcher. I still made a new character.
(08:35:38) Ferric_Vintas: Hmm... the lag scrambled that
(08:35:44) Cai: Ferric, hush
(08:35:46) (279564): SHE HAS FLWAS!
(08:35:55) Niabi: what flaws?
(08:35:56) Breda_Dreaughan: Ferric, you're still not helping.
(08:36:13) Niabi: how do you balance out immunity to vampire weaknesses?
(08:36:21) Niabi: can she still die?
(08:36:27) (279564): because she doesnt have any of the powers
(08:36:45) (279564): like she does but she doesnt know how to use them
(08:36:52) Ferric_Vintas: Not having strengths is not a weakness
(08:37:13) Ferric_Vintas: My character can't turn invisible and shoot lasers
(08:37:13) (279564): she still has weakneses
(08:37:29) (279564): she could still be killed the same way you kill a normal vampire
(08:37:30) Ferric_Vintas: Which are?
(08:37:39) (279564): she doesnt have any magic to defend herself with
(08:37:44) Ferric_Vintas: Still makes her better than average
(08:37:46) Cai: The thing you need to realise is that no amount of discussion over 'does the vampire character have weaknesses or not' changes the fact that vampire characters are not permitted
(08:37:47) Ferric_Vintas: And again
(08:37:50) (279564): shes only immortal on her own
(08:37:52) Niabi: most our character have no magic
(08:38:05) Ferric_Vintas: Not having a strength, as in not having magic, is not a weakness
(08:38:12) (279564): she doesnt even know how to use it!
(08:38:18) (279564): shes not perfect
(08:39:08) (279564): you knwo what fine
(08:39:21) Breda_Dreaughan: Surely you could tweak it a bit. She could have done terrible things in her past, and been forced to forget them by her lover, without being a vampire.
(08:39:21) (279564): your all just big POOP heads!
(08:39:22) Cai: A vampire character application will not get approved. The only way to get past this is to accept that like I did, and consider a new character
(08:39:29) Ferric_Vintas: Oh my gosh
(08:39:33) Ferric_Vintas: I never realized
(08:39:36) Porter: (279564) is now known as (p00p).
(08:39:36) Cai: Um, sure. Or you could call me a poophead. That works too.
(08:39:37) Ferric_Vintas: I have poop for a head
(08:39:48) Ferric_Vintas: D:
(08:39:49) Cai: Well played, PRTZ
(08:39:54) Cai: Well played
(08:40:01) Niabi: haha
(08:40:02) Cai: Finally got me, you bastard =D
(08:40:30) (p00p): that was fun
(08:40:39) Ferric_Vintas: Well played, well played
(08:41:03) Niabi: I think that deserves chat quotes
